Comments on: How museums get their stuff: should we care? https://www.501places.com/2012/02/how-museums-get-their-stuff/ Sharing the world with you Wed, 07 Mar 2012 16:55:48 +0000 hourly 1 By: Andy Jarosz https://www.501places.com/2012/02/how-museums-get-their-stuff/#comment-69638 Andy Jarosz Tue, 06 Mar 2012 17:19:08 +0000 https://www.501places.com/?p=8178#comment-69638 Unisse and Donna - many thanks for adding your valuable thoughts to the discussion. You both make great points and in these two positions we find the strongest arguments: should precious artefacts stay where they originated or where they are considered to be more securely preserved? Historians (and professional looters) have argued over this for centuries and continue to do so. Unisse and Donna – many thanks for adding your valuable thoughts to the discussion. You both make great points and in these two positions we find the strongest arguments: should precious artefacts stay where they originated or where they are considered to be more securely preserved? Historians (and professional looters) have argued over this for centuries and continue to do so.

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By: Unisse @ Little Girl Travels https://www.501places.com/2012/02/how-museums-get-their-stuff/#comment-69632 Unisse @ Little Girl Travels Mon, 05 Mar 2012 13:10:04 +0000 https://www.501places.com/?p=8178#comment-69632 This is very well written and poses a very good question to almost everyone who has visited a museum at least once. Museums are connected to a country's history and I think it's better that each country gets to keep their own relics, even if the diggers were from another nation. I learned in our history class in college that a lot of Philippine relics are displayed in collections far from the Philippines which is why the museums here don't have much. This is very well written and poses a very good question to almost everyone who has visited a museum at least once.

Museums are connected to a country’s history and I think it’s better that each country gets to keep their own relics, even if the diggers were from another nation. I learned in our history class in college that a lot of Philippine relics are displayed in collections far from the Philippines which is why the museums here don’t have much.

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By: Donna https://www.501places.com/2012/02/how-museums-get-their-stuff/#comment-69630 Donna Sun, 04 Mar 2012 23:22:26 +0000 https://www.501places.com/?p=8178#comment-69630 There are no easy answers. Where will the things be best preserved? Where are they likely to be destroyed by political upheaval and war? I think those questions need to be asked as well. There are no easy answers. Where will the things be best preserved? Where are they likely to be destroyed by political upheaval and war? I think those questions need to be asked as well.

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By: Andy Jarosz https://www.501places.com/2012/02/how-museums-get-their-stuff/#comment-69600 Andy Jarosz Thu, 23 Feb 2012 15:59:00 +0000 https://www.501places.com/?p=8178#comment-69600 Thanks for the great insights. Yen, I suspect the Chinese will have to wait a long time to get their loot back from the British - it will probably return when it's tied to some trade deal or other. That's the way these things often work... on second thoughts perhaps China has a better chance of getting its stuff back than Greece, India or any African state... I like the idea of active lending to other museums but I suspect the British are nervous that items displayed in their native territories might not return... Thanks for the great insights. Yen, I suspect the Chinese will have to wait a long time to get their loot back from the British – it will probably return when it’s tied to some trade deal or other. That’s the way these things often work… on second thoughts perhaps China has a better chance of getting its stuff back than Greece, India or any African state…
I like the idea of active lending to other museums but I suspect the British are nervous that items displayed in their native territories might not return…

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By: Keith https://www.501places.com/2012/02/how-museums-get-their-stuff/#comment-69589 Keith Wed, 22 Feb 2012 09:13:50 +0000 https://www.501places.com/?p=8178#comment-69589 I was talking to an amateur egyptologist only the other day, and she thought most of the stuff in the British Museum and Highclere was appropriated on the 'finders keepers' principle. She argued that, with the techniques and materials available nowadays, authentic replicas could be made, and most of the stuff returned to Egypt. However, she had no argument with atrefacts freely presented to the museum as gifts. I was talking to an amateur egyptologist only the other day, and she thought most of the stuff in the British Museum and Highclere was appropriated on the ‘finders keepers’ principle. She argued that, with the techniques and materials available nowadays, authentic replicas could be made, and most of the stuff returned to Egypt.

However, she had no argument with atrefacts freely presented to the museum as gifts.

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By: Yen https://www.501places.com/2012/02/how-museums-get-their-stuff/#comment-69587 Yen Wed, 22 Feb 2012 06:05:48 +0000 https://www.501places.com/?p=8178#comment-69587 Great article. I have learned that many relics and antiques were looted from China by the British and French during the late 1800's and early 1900's. Chinese museums have since been urging these countries to return these properties back to them. Not sure if they have yet. Great article.
I have learned that many relics and antiques were looted from China by the British and French during the late 1800′s and early 1900′s. Chinese museums have since been urging these countries to return these properties back to them. Not sure if they have yet.

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By: Nathan https://www.501places.com/2012/02/how-museums-get-their-stuff/#comment-69585 Nathan Tue, 21 Feb 2012 12:41:12 +0000 https://www.501places.com/?p=8178#comment-69585 Nice piece. Very hard to reconcile the joys of the BM with the 'imperial war chest, with lecture theatres' view. Two related things I'd add: 1 - The best institutions can also offer world-class preservation and restoration (though that has, in certain cases, allowed them to simply deflect arguments about repatriation by snapping "NO! You'll only ruin it!"). 2 - If return isn't possible, or simply isn't on the table, we can still argue museums should repay the moral cost of their acquisitions through active lending policies, granting access to researchers etc.. A good lending policy can help institutions elsewhere in the world improve their capacity for handling and storing certain pieces through sharing of expertise and tech. Nice piece. Very hard to reconcile the joys of the BM with the ‘imperial war chest, with lecture theatres’ view. Two related things I’d add:

1 – The best institutions can also offer world-class preservation and restoration (though that has, in certain cases, allowed them to simply deflect arguments about repatriation by snapping “NO! You’ll only ruin it!”).

2 – If return isn’t possible, or simply isn’t on the table, we can still argue museums should repay the moral cost of their acquisitions through active lending policies, granting access to researchers etc.. A good lending policy can help institutions elsewhere in the world improve their capacity for handling and storing certain pieces through sharing of expertise and tech.

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