Comments on: Shark’s fin soup: should we be outraged? https://www.501places.com/2010/04/sharks-fin-soup-should-we-be-outraged/ Travel stories that won't change the world Wed, 07 May 2014 14:24:20 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.9 By: Mark Twinam https://www.501places.com/2010/04/sharks-fin-soup-should-we-be-outraged/#comment-70119 Mon, 13 Aug 2012 16:48:31 +0000 https://www.501places.com/?p=2585#comment-70119 I am a shark fisherman in Florida. We sell the meat and fins. If a shark species is well regulated why shouldn’t I be able to sell the fins as well as the meat? If illegal finning is stopped why shouldn’t I get a better price for my legally caught fins?

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By: Andy Jarosz https://www.501places.com/2010/04/sharks-fin-soup-should-we-be-outraged/#comment-33546 Mon, 23 May 2011 18:55:13 +0000 https://www.501places.com/?p=2585#comment-33546 Very well put Andrea. There are reasons to look at ourselves, and then there are absolute wrongs. I haven’t heard any defence of shark finning, except rebuffing attacks by its defenders of western farming practices, which is no defence at all. I suspect there are huge cultural shifts that have to take place before our stances of principle have any effect on the world’s shark (or goose) population. And in the case of the sharks, that will probably come too late…

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By: Andrea Wren https://www.501places.com/2010/04/sharks-fin-soup-should-we-be-outraged/#comment-33540 Mon, 23 May 2011 18:11:29 +0000 https://www.501places.com/?p=2585#comment-33540 Great post Andy, was going to write something on this myself. I feel very strongly that the shark fin trade is a cruel, abhorrent one which should most definitely be open to pressure from the rest of the world to end it.

No culture has the right to be barbaric – whether to animals or other humans – and we all, as users of this planet, have a responsibility to protect its inhabitants, regardless whether it’s happening over another country’s border.
I would never eat shark’s fin soup, even if that gesture caused offence. The practice of obtaining and eating it offends me more!

I’m a vegetarian who occasionally eats (sustainably sourced) fish (so a pescetarian, really) and I’m a member of the organisation ‘Compassion in World Farming’ (http://www.ciwf.org.uk/). I feel very strongly that if animals are going to be eaten by humans, they at least have the right to a pain free end and a dignified and happy life.

While factory farming in the UK leaves a LOT to be desired, there are at least legislations in place to purportedly protect farmed animals (though the reason I still don’t eat free range meat is because for most animals, the end is pretty terrifying with incompetents and sadists doing the killing, and even free-range animals often have immense suffering at the slaughterhouse). China has no such welfare laws, on any level, that protect animals and as sentient beings for the most part, we really should be doing more to change this.

And we can change it, if we care enough. Obviously, by never accepting to eat it (and definitely not buy it in restaurants) is a start. It actually wasn’t until fairly recently that shark finning was banned in UK waters, believe it or not (http://www.guardian.co.uk/environment/2009/oct/11/uk-shark-finning-ban-extinct), although its hardly ever been a delicacy here.

But I still feel we should look to our own practices before judging others. While fois gras, for example, is banned from being made in the UK because it is so extremely cruel to produce, there are many places to buy it, whether the local deli or a top end French restaurant.

Hopefully, the people who feel strongly about not eating shark’s fin would feel equal as strongly about opposing the production of fois gras, as well as veal (and why not look to France then, as well as China, for other examples of disgusting ways of putting food on our plates. As if we haven’t enough choice of food already, do we really need these ‘delicacies’?).

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By: Mark https://www.501places.com/2010/04/sharks-fin-soup-should-we-be-outraged/#comment-13586 Fri, 06 Aug 2010 03:29:24 +0000 https://www.501places.com/?p=2585#comment-13586 The practice of killing sharks for shark fin soup is a pure example of how Chinese and other cultures disregard nature for stupid customs and beliefs. Just like they kill rhinos for horns, etc. If they really need to eat shark fins, then they should be farming them. To compare the slaughtering of sharks to the poor conditions of chicken farming is no comparison. Chickens are bred and grown for consumption. They do not roam free in the wild. Killing sharks for soup is as bad as the Japanese killing whales in the name of science, or killing dolphins for food. If you farm something, then you can do what you want., as long as it does not affect others or the environment.

Another person mentioned that we should not force our opinions on other cultures; the only problem with that logic is that the oceans are for everybody. Nobody has a right to strip the earth of natural resources for short-term profits. If killing sharks was banned, I do not think anyone would loose sleep over it.

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By: Bill https://www.501places.com/2010/04/sharks-fin-soup-should-we-be-outraged/#comment-13112 Mon, 02 Aug 2010 22:52:14 +0000 https://www.501places.com/?p=2585#comment-13112 Very interesting and well reasoned discussion. From my perspective there are many abuses in the equation of feeding the population and prevailing culture of each country. Who can forget the hidden videos of sick cattle being dragged and fork lifted to their final end in US kill houses??

Like an above poster, I do find a significant difference in animals that are “farmed” for their meat and meat products, and those killed to the point of extinction in the wild for any reason. A cultural practice simply cannot be allowed to eliminate any species from the earth.

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By: Melissa https://www.501places.com/2010/04/sharks-fin-soup-should-we-be-outraged/#comment-5964 Fri, 14 May 2010 12:32:43 +0000 https://www.501places.com/?p=2585#comment-5964 It really upsets me to hear of animals being used so wastefully. I have no problem eating shark in itself. My husband caught one and brought it home yesterday. We cut it up into steaks, ate half for dinner, froze the other half for another dinner for the six of us, boiled the head, tail, and fins and fed those to the chickens and dog.The chickens will produce eggs and eventually go in the stew pot. The dog keeps the chickens from getting eaten by coyotes. The entire animal was used. It is not dificult to use these animals efficiently. My question is, why not feed the meat of the sharks caught to all the hungry and starving people out there? It is quite tasty and it was already in the boat!

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By: Sofia - As We Travel https://www.501places.com/2010/04/sharks-fin-soup-should-we-be-outraged/#comment-4801 Sat, 17 Apr 2010 17:19:11 +0000 https://www.501places.com/?p=2585#comment-4801 I was thrilled to read this post. Thank you for spreading the word!!!

The sharks are endangered, and what most people don’t seem to realize is that without the sharks, the ocean would get totally messed up and eventually human beings will be in A LOT of trouble for our own survival. The sharks are incredibly important for the ocean!

What scares me the most is that there is a new “myth” in Asia that shark fins can heal and prevent cancer (this because sharks can’t get cancer), and there is so much money in the whole business.
Frankly, I’m quite terrified to what’s going on. And like you mentioned, they’re killed in the most horrific ways, they just cut the fin off and throw them back in the ocean again :(

It is NOT OK to eat shark’s fin soup or buy shark teeth or any of all that stuff.

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By: jo https://www.501places.com/2010/04/sharks-fin-soup-should-we-be-outraged/#comment-4548 Mon, 12 Apr 2010 11:22:58 +0000 https://www.501places.com/?p=2585#comment-4548 While I deplore the practice of stripping sharks and rays of their fins, often leaving the animals to die in the shallows, as a western society we have to consider what our tastes dictate. How many righteously enraged readers have pets? What are those pets eating? Don’t fool yourself into thinking that pet food is just using up scrap. It is a multi billion dollar industry that drives poor fishermen to extreme levels in order to participate for the lucrative dollar.

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By: John Bardos -JetSetCitizen https://www.501places.com/2010/04/sharks-fin-soup-should-we-be-outraged/#comment-4538 Mon, 12 Apr 2010 06:06:54 +0000 https://www.501places.com/?p=2585#comment-4538 I personally chose not to eat certain foods including shark fin soup because of the reasons you mentioned. As much as I disagree with the practices of others I don’t think outrage is an effective response. I think it should be more about education and awareness.

I also disagree with all the Hummers and other super-sized vehicles that are so popular in North America. However, I can’t be “outraged” every time I see a driver of one of these vehicles.

I think my feelings are more of sadness. How can people live with such a disregard for other people and animals? I know I am also guilty, air travel is a big one so I can’t judge others so black and white.

I just hope more people increase awareness of these issues like you have.

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By: Andy Jarosz https://www.501places.com/2010/04/sharks-fin-soup-should-we-be-outraged/#comment-4526 Sun, 11 Apr 2010 20:02:39 +0000 https://www.501places.com/?p=2585#comment-4526 Mark, is there any culture that can lecture another about their food practices? Ours certainly can’t and while I haven’t yet heard a single defence for shark finning, I agree with you that one culture shouldn’t expect another to change to its view of the world. But if we do have outrage for this practice, let’s channel it into improving the way things are done in our own part of the world.

Gary, you’ve summed it up well. There’s little governance of the open oceans, so it becomes a free-for-all with no regard to sustainability or animal dignity. And like you say, the issue of killing bears, tigers and other rare beasts for medicine production places the sharks as just a part of a bigger animal problem. But to stop the poaching of these species is impossible without reducing the demand for these ‘products’. And that’s a way bigger issue than just the sharks…

No answers, but a very interesting discussion. Thanks guys.

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