Comments on: Why bloggers should promote destinations, and why they won’t https://www.501places.com/2010/02/why-bloggers-should-promote-destinations-and-they-wont/ Sharing the world with you Wed, 20 Jun 2012 13:33:02 +0000 hourly 1 By: Andy Jarosz https://www.501places.com/2010/02/why-bloggers-should-promote-destinations-and-they-wont/#comment-1793 Andy Jarosz Tue, 02 Feb 2010 19:44:57 +0000 https://www.501places.com/?p=1756#comment-1793 Great suggestions Melanie. Yes, I agree that as bloggers we should be working with PR folks. We can after all make each others' lives so much easier. Great suggestions Melanie. Yes, I agree that as bloggers we should be working with PR folks. We can after all make each others’ lives so much easier.

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By: Melanie@TravelsWithTwo https://www.501places.com/2010/02/why-bloggers-should-promote-destinations-and-they-wont/#comment-1785 Melanie@TravelsWithTwo Tue, 02 Feb 2010 14:03:27 +0000 https://www.501places.com/?p=1756#comment-1785 I agree that itinerary-free trips for travel bloggers would be wonderful, but in the meantime, it's up to us to define our own value and sway/educate the tourism industry via our relationships with PR reps. Our greatest advantage to a PR company's clients is that we're travel writers with our own, ready-made niche outlets. Unless the place or experience in question is unspeakably dull, as bloggers we can always find an angle that allows us to share it with our readers in a personal, informative way. We shouldn't be afraid to ask for time to ourselves on a press trip, and use that time to go exploring on our own. In my experience, as long as you're willing to form your own agenda, press trip itineraries can be set aside for a few hours or even days, hotel stays can be extended, and flights can be postponed. I fully agree that the more hands-on information we can gather about a place, the more useful the context for a travel-based business. The post-press trip questionnaire is quite possibly our most useful tool of change. You can be an advocate for travel bloggers in general by respectfully reviewing your press trip the same way you would a trip booked on your own dime. For instance, if access to a unique experience or simply more free time would be an ideal addition to the next trip, speak up. PR reps are, potentially, our greatest champions in the commercial tourist industry -- let's let them know what we need to do our best work. I agree that itinerary-free trips for travel bloggers would be wonderful, but in the meantime, it’s up to us to define our own value and sway/educate the tourism industry via our relationships with PR reps.

Our greatest advantage to a PR company’s clients is that we’re travel writers with our own, ready-made niche outlets. Unless the place or experience in question is unspeakably dull, as bloggers we can always find an angle that allows us to share it with our readers in a personal, informative way.

We shouldn’t be afraid to ask for time to ourselves on a press trip, and use that time to go exploring on our own. In my experience, as long as you’re willing to form your own agenda, press trip itineraries can be set aside for a few hours or even days, hotel stays can be extended, and flights can be postponed. I fully agree that the more hands-on information we can gather about a place, the more useful the context for a travel-based business.

The post-press trip questionnaire is quite possibly our most useful tool of change. You can be an advocate for travel bloggers in general by respectfully reviewing your press trip the same way you would a trip booked on your own dime. For instance, if access to a unique experience or simply more free time would be an ideal addition to the next trip, speak up.

PR reps are, potentially, our greatest champions in the commercial tourist industry — let’s let them know what we need to do our best work.

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By: Andy Jarosz https://www.501places.com/2010/02/why-bloggers-should-promote-destinations-and-they-wont/#comment-1783 Andy Jarosz Tue, 02 Feb 2010 13:23:04 +0000 https://www.501places.com/?p=1756#comment-1783 Keith, I'm glad you shared your successful trip to Brum and I look forward to reading the post. You and Karen have found some good UK based tourist offices who are forward thinking enough to embrace the opportunity that exists. Like you say, there is a reluctance to let go of the old ways, even when they are clearly becoming less effective. If a blogger is trusted by their peers to provide useful, honest and engaging content, their material can reach a very wide audience very quickly. Keep up the good work and I look forward to seeing where you get to next! Keith, I’m glad you shared your successful trip to Brum and I look forward to reading the post. You and Karen have found some good UK based tourist offices who are forward thinking enough to embrace the opportunity that exists.
Like you say, there is a reluctance to let go of the old ways, even when they are clearly becoming less effective. If a blogger is trusted by their peers to provide useful, honest and engaging content, their material can reach a very wide audience very quickly. Keep up the good work and I look forward to seeing where you get to next!

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By: Keith https://www.501places.com/2010/02/why-bloggers-should-promote-destinations-and-they-wont/#comment-1782 Keith Tue, 02 Feb 2010 12:11:53 +0000 https://www.501places.com/?p=1756#comment-1782 Hi Andy, Excellent post! I'm writing a similar post right this minute detailing the exposure generated by my recent sponsored trip to Birmingham. Tourism offices, airlines and tour operators are starting to see the value of inviting travel bloggers but their numbers are still very small. I see it as my mission to educate them via Velvet Connect and Velvet Escape! :-) I sometimes think that the problem lies with the PR agencies that represent them. Most of them still lean heavily on traditional media such as magazines and newspapers. You quite rightly point out that readership numbers for these 'old world' media channels are dwindling but somehow, many companies find it hard to make the switch and embrace the endless opportunities provided by 'new world' media. Very interesting discussion and I'm really happy you wrote about it. I see many possibilities for these tourism offices/companies to collaborate with travel bloggers. Let's hope they see the 'light' soon! :-) Hi Andy,

Excellent post! I’m writing a similar post right this minute detailing the exposure generated by my recent sponsored trip to Birmingham. Tourism offices, airlines and tour operators are starting to see the value of inviting travel bloggers but their numbers are still very small. I see it as my mission to educate them via Velvet Connect and Velvet Escape! :-) I sometimes think that the problem lies with the PR agencies that represent them. Most of them still lean heavily on traditional media such as magazines and newspapers. You quite rightly point out that readership numbers for these ‘old world’ media channels are dwindling but somehow, many companies find it hard to make the switch and embrace the endless opportunities provided by ‘new world’ media.

Very interesting discussion and I’m really happy you wrote about it. I see many possibilities for these tourism offices/companies to collaborate with travel bloggers. Let’s hope they see the ‘light’ soon! :-)

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By: Andy Jarosz https://www.501places.com/2010/02/why-bloggers-should-promote-destinations-and-they-wont/#comment-1763 Andy Jarosz Mon, 01 Feb 2010 20:10:48 +0000 https://www.501places.com/?p=1756#comment-1763 @Gwen. Thanks for your comments, and I'll keep an eye on your Algarve site. it looks nice and clean. Very inviting to read and interesting material. Not sure about the business of teaching destination staff though. I'm sure there are easier ways of making a living :-) @Lauren It's encouraging to read your comments about the increased appetite for deeper content. Anything that compels writers to actually go to the places they write about has to be a good thing. Just like business owners are constantly trying to find the balance between content and SEO on their website, bloggers need to ensure that the race for rankings doesn't get in the way of writing about the things they want to cover. Thanks for sharing your thoughts. @Gwen. Thanks for your comments, and I’ll keep an eye on your Algarve site. it looks nice and clean. Very inviting to read and interesting material. Not sure about the business of teaching destination staff though. I’m sure there are easier ways of making a living :-)

@Lauren It’s encouraging to read your comments about the increased appetite for deeper content. Anything that compels writers to actually go to the places they write about has to be a good thing. Just like business owners are constantly trying to find the balance between content and SEO on their website, bloggers need to ensure that the race for rankings doesn’t get in the way of writing about the things they want to cover. Thanks for sharing your thoughts.

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By: Lauren https://www.501places.com/2010/02/why-bloggers-should-promote-destinations-and-they-wont/#comment-1761 Lauren Mon, 01 Feb 2010 19:01:11 +0000 https://www.501places.com/?p=1756#comment-1761 Over at www.ephemerratic.com, we do a lot of reviews of places instead of packing lists, product reviews, and posts about travel concepts. Unfortunately readers still are more likely to click a post titled "Top 10 items to have in your daybag" than read a story that gives a glimpse about what it's actually like to visit a place. We're seeing more people - and advertisers - interested in deeper content development. Posts about places are a lot harder to write than "The world's 10 best shipwreck dives." I can write top 10 posts and product reviews without leaving home, but writing a compelling, useful post about a place requires that you have been there. Lucky for me that leaving home is the whole point. Over at http://www.ephemerratic.com, we do a lot of reviews of places instead of packing lists, product reviews, and posts about travel concepts. Unfortunately readers still are more likely to click a post titled “Top 10 items to have in your daybag” than read a story that gives a glimpse about what it’s actually like to visit a place.

We’re seeing more people – and advertisers – interested in deeper content development. Posts about places are a lot harder to write than “The world’s 10 best shipwreck dives.” I can write top 10 posts and product reviews without leaving home, but writing a compelling, useful post about a place requires that you have been there.

Lucky for me that leaving home is the whole point.

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By: Gwen McCauley https://www.501places.com/2010/02/why-bloggers-should-promote-destinations-and-they-wont/#comment-1756 Gwen McCauley Mon, 01 Feb 2010 14:47:57 +0000 https://www.501places.com/?p=1756#comment-1756 Hi Andy - what a powerful blog posting! You should consider developing a separate blog site focused at 'educating' folks in the marketing/promo departments of destinations/hotels etc. You could probably make a tidy living providing them with articles, teleclasses, etc. - cause in my experience they sure need it! Part of the reason that I started my new Algarve Experiences blog site is that I was tired of reading all the hyper glitzy marketing materials that don't really tell you the full scoop. I figured if it felt like a hole in my experiences of the Algarve, a place I adore and spend much time in, there must be others who have a similar need. As lovely as all the major tourist spots are, I am one of those people who likes to find my own stuff, to get off-the-beaten-track and see what 90% of the rest of the world misses. I also adore getting to know local folks and finding out how they interact with their world. Keep up the good work. And thanks for getting me thinking! Hi Andy – what a powerful blog posting! You should consider developing a separate blog site focused at ‘educating’ folks in the marketing/promo departments of destinations/hotels etc. You could probably make a tidy living providing them with articles, teleclasses, etc. – cause in my experience they sure need it!

Part of the reason that I started my new Algarve Experiences blog site is that I was tired of reading all the hyper glitzy marketing materials that don’t really tell you the full scoop. I figured if it felt like a hole in my experiences of the Algarve, a place I adore and spend much time in, there must be others who have a similar need. As lovely as all the major tourist spots are, I am one of those people who likes to find my own stuff, to get off-the-beaten-track and see what 90% of the rest of the world misses. I also adore getting to know local folks and finding out how they interact with their world.

Keep up the good work. And thanks for getting me thinking!

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By: Andy Jarosz https://www.501places.com/2010/02/why-bloggers-should-promote-destinations-and-they-wont/#comment-1754 Andy Jarosz Mon, 01 Feb 2010 12:30:50 +0000 https://www.501places.com/?p=1756#comment-1754 Thanks for that Karen, and I'm glad to hear it. Local organisations appear to be more open to this than national ones. That would make sense politically I guess. Enjoy York (I'm sure you will) and I look forward to reading about it. Thanks for that Karen, and I’m glad to hear it. Local organisations appear to be more open to this than national ones. That would make sense politically I guess. Enjoy York (I’m sure you will) and I look forward to reading about it.

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By: Karen Bryan https://www.501places.com/2010/02/why-bloggers-should-promote-destinations-and-they-wont/#comment-1753 Karen Bryan Mon, 01 Feb 2010 12:25:49 +0000 https://www.501places.com/?p=1756#comment-1753 Andy,I'm off for a short break to York next week, courtesty of Visit York. The organisation want to promote the city and their free nights deals,so have abviously decided that inviting a travel blogger, over whom they will exercise no editorial contral, is a risk worth taking. Andy,I’m off for a short break to York next week, courtesty of Visit York. The organisation want to promote the city and their free nights deals,so have abviously decided that inviting a travel blogger, over whom they will exercise no editorial contral, is a risk worth taking.

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